THERE ARE SOME STRATEGIC RELICS SUCH AS [Ki-49 Hellen 3220] AT ALEXISHAFEN THAT SHOULD REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE. CLARIFICATION Its outstanding range literally revolutionized operational concepts in the Pacific. Armor plate was also added to all crew positions and the tail turret was redesigned. Evidently, only the pieces that survive today arrived at the storage facility at Park Ridge, Illinois, during the late 1940s. The PNG Museum's motto is 'Preserve and protect PNG's unique cultural, national & contemporary heritage' How does your work help this aim? Greinert surveying In 1994 restoration was started to create Bettys Dream. At that time, the requirements were unprecedented for a twin-engine, land-based attack bomber: flying at a top speed of 398 kph (247 mph) and an altitude of 3,000 m (9,845 ft), the new bomber had to fly a distance of 4,722 km (2,933 miles) without a torpedo or equivalent weight in bombs. THE QUICKEST RECOVERY WAS THE RUSSIAN MIG-15 NOW IN CANBERRA. The Japanese more genially nicknamed the Betty Hamaki (cigar), and many sources have assumed this was a reference to the airplanes flammability when struck by enemy fire. I PREFER TO HAVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF ORIGINAL MATERIAL IN THE REBUILD AS POSSIBLE AND I GO TO EXTRAORDINARY LENGTHS TO SEE THAT IS ACHIEVED. . I WOULD REFER YOUR READERS TO Classic Wings Magazine WHICH HAS JUST DONE A EXCELLENT COVERAGE ON THE TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS OF RESTORING A P-47. In 2011 it was operated by Fighter Hangar 1, now known as the Texas Flying Legends Museum. Mitsubishi said the bomber would need four engines to accomplish that, but the IJNAS insisted on a twin-engine configuration. A Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' bomber of the Imperial Japanese Navy. The U.S. Army Air Forces would later try the same thing with its YB-40s, which were B-17s carrying 18 or even more .50-caliber guns, flying as formation escorts. It featured a crew of two (pilot, gunner) and . For the remainder of the war, the BETTY assembly line continued to run. Escorted by four RNZAF Vought F4U-1 Corsair fighters, it was flown to Jacquinot Bay on October 14,1945 by Warrant Officer Kataoka Goro . Subscribe here! THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT HISTORY IS BEING SAVED ALL THE TIME AND THE STORY GETS TO BE TOLD THROUGH THE MACHINES. Institutions ranging from the National Air and Space Museum, the Air Force Museum, the National Museum of Naval Aviation to the Royal Air Force Museum and the Imperial War Museum have recovered aircraft from the wilds and either restored or displayed their finds. They devastated Clark Field, Philippine Islands, on December 8, 1941, and participated in sinking the British battleships HMS "Prince of Wales" and HMS "Repulse" on December 10. guns in the nose, atop the mid-fuselage behind the cockpit, and on both sides of the fuselage behind the wing. ITS TRUE VALUE IS IN THE HISTORY AND THE STORY IT WILL TELL FUTURE GENERATIONS. The recovery of the Beaufighters caused a national stir. Whether they produced battlefield images of the dead or daguerreotype portraits of common soldiers, []. The Nell was the scourge of China, ranging far and wide during the Sino-Japanese war that preceded WWII. I SUGGEST THAT ANYBODY CONTEMPLATING THIS SHOULD SPEAK TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS ACTUALLY DONE IT BEFORE THEY THEY RUSH OFF AND WASTE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME AND MONEY ON A VENTURE THAT MAY PROVE FINANCIALLY AND PHYSICALLY DAMAGING. THESE THINGS TAKE TIME. Beaufighter A19-148 What in-house HARS I BELIEVE IT WAS CHARLES DARBY WHO SUCCINTLY PUT IT THAT "ALL WRECKS" SHOULD BE SAVED WHERE POSSIBLE FOR POSTERITY. The fuselage Hinomaru was outlined with a white square. I became totally enraptured in the shapes and stories of the various aircraft. Navy leaders hoped that by increasing the number of defensive cannons, the G6M1 could become a heavy escort fighter for other bombers but this diversion failed to live up to expectations, and the Navy ordered the G4M1 into production. If that doesn't work then go into gmod and redownload the mod. As Yamamoto flew south 16 US P38 Lightnings were heading north from Honiara to intercept him. As a result of these modifications, the fuselage was shortened and the center-of-gravity shifted forward. OCCASSIONALLY I MAY BUY OR TRADE IN IT SO I CAN ACQUIRE WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE VARIOUS RESTORATIONS. AS PER PREVIOUS QUESTION, I WOULD SUGGEST YOUR READERSHIP SEEK OUT MORE SPECIFIC PUBLICATIONS WHERE THESES SORTS OF QUESTIONS ARE DEALT WITH IN DETAIL. It is based at the Commemorative Air Force Museum in Mesa, Arizona, US. Front-line combat units operated many variants and subvariants with different engines and armament packages. Mitsubishi G4M Betty of 4 Kokutai at low level flight. One of the Bettys last combat assignments was to carry torpedo-shaped Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka single-seat kamikaze rocket planes to within striking distance of U.S. fleets. Leaving aviation objects outside to rot and be scrapped is not an option. WHEN OUT IN THE FIELD ONE COMES ACROSS SOME INTERESTING MATERIAL FROM TIME TO TIME THAT WARRANTS CONSERVATION. HistoryNet.com is brought to you by HistoryNet LLC, the worlds largest publisher of history magazines. THE BEST OF EVERYTHING LEFT BEFORE 1975. Every major aviation museum has, or is actively locating crash sites for potential exhibits or restorations. IT IS TRULY ONE OF THE MOST MAGICAL COUNTRIES ON THE PLANET AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, LEAVING STUFF IN THE BUSH DOES NOT CAUSE HISTORY TO BE SAVED NOR THE STORY TOLD. It was never used for high altitude bombing like the B-17 Flying Fortress, but was instead used for low leveling bombing and strafing runs. Same engines, same twin-engine configuration, same size, give it some gunsjust make it a lot faster and longer-legged.. The first G4M prototype left the factory in September 1939 and made the trek to Kagamigahara Airfield since Mitsubishi's Nagoya plant had no company airstrip. How much of salvaged aircraft can actually be used? Mitsubishi also learned that the heavy cannons compromised the Bettys handling. This is there opinion and they are entitled to argue it. EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT THEM, NOBODY WAS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT, IT WAS GREAT TO SAVE THEM AND SEE THEM GO TO GOOD HOMES. Many of the Grumman F4F Wildcats and Douglas SBD Dauntless dive bombers on display today were recovered from Lake Michigan years after training crashes sent them to rest on the murky bottom. When it first appeared west of the Gilbert Islands, the Allies were surprised and thought . 35mm 860kv motors. The ill-conceived notion that objects should be left to rot and protected as such is to guarantee that these sites will be clandestinely looted and stripped of anything of value, which will be sold off either as scrap or to collectors. It worked for a while, but increasingly inexperienced G4M crews and the chaos of night attacks rendered even these desperate measures ineffective. B-25s from the 501st Bomb Squadron of the Air Apaches escorted Mitsubishi Betty surrender aircraft en route to Ie Shima in August 1945. Like the Mitsubishi Zero Fighter (also in the NASM collection), the Hamaki soldiered on long after it became obsolete, even dangerous, to fly wherever Allied interceptors prowled. With sale prices of restored warbirds so high, and even projects expensive, what is the 'value' of wrecked aircraft? On that day, fifty P-40s would take to the air to meet the attackers. From the first day of war until after the surrender, BETTY bombers saw service throughout the Pacific and Indian Oceans. He has an aircraft recovery permit salvager, restorer? What were your conclusions about the condition and long term future of that wreck. PNG Museum allows only for museum to museum basis, are granted in exchange for work done 1:1 related to projects. I BELIEVE PEOPLE WILL ENJOY IT. If you conduct an analysis of those that criticize, you discover that they are either the armchair critics of this world that do nothing but sit behind a computer and complain to the world or commercial salvage organizations that seek to plunder for profit. In his post Mr Campbell said, "Christopher Luxon might be able to rescue his party from stupidity on climate change, but rescuing this from a well he has dug himself might be harder.". The website wreckchasing.com furthers the argument succinctly. In August 1942, during the Guadalcanal campaign and this time escorted by fighters, 18 out of 23 attacking Bettys were shot downthe single worst G4M loss during the entire campaign. The Aboriginal elders at Kalambaru were so impressed with our passion and our sense of history that they gave us the aircraft. What is wreckage used for when exported? Due to these qualities, it was a symbol of Japanese naval aviation. TO ANSWER THE FIRST PART OF THIS QUESTION REQUIRES A VERY LONG AND DETAILED ANSWER AND ONE MORE SUITED TO A MORE SPECIFIC FORUM. I REALLY DONT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. Betty was actually a waitress in Pennsylvania. We called her Betty. . It was a reliable plane and while many survived past the war, very few combat veteran B-25s remain. The aircraft is regularly flown to airshows throughout North America. They did nothing. The B-25 was the little brother of the bombing campaign as it was used in every theater during the war and by many of the allied nations. The G4M was a Japanese high-speed bomber-torpedo carrier. It is estimated that by the end of the war, 5,000 pilots had died making Tokko attacks and the damage they wrought was severe. The bomber crew (little Arthur Askey & co) try to avoid betrothal, while convincing the girls to update their traditions. What projects are you involved and accountable with the PNG Museum? The Mitsubishi G4M was the main twin-engine, land-based bomber used by the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service in World War II. The Betty stocked some 37 Japanese bomber groups . Although the G4M now had a more potent sting, Honjo again sacrificed crew protection to the Navy's demands for great range. One specially detailed Betty crew was even assigned to seize a Superfortress and fly it back to Japan. Nicknamed "Betty" by the Allies, the Type 1 Bombers of the G4M family were the heavy bombers of the Japanese Navy. So the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service laid down the parameters of what would become the Betty by basically saying, Build a better Nell. Nobody is sure how many torpedoes hit the two British battlewagons, but three days after Pearl Harbor, wave after wave of Nells and Bettys achieved at least nine Type 91 hits and possibly as many as 21. It was propelled by a tiny radial engine fueled by kerosene and compressed air, and had a surprisingly sophisticated automatic roll-control mechanism. The rocket planes were heavymore than 4,700 poundsso the overloaded Bettys carrying them were particularly vulnerable to fighter interception. Greinert was responsible for having its salvage permit re-issued, a permit that was deemed illegal by the PAC.]. THE DEVESTATORS [TBD 0298 and TBD 1515] IN THE MARSHAL LAGOONS FOR EXAMPLE. Mention some of your work in PNG 1990 - present, Speak about your work with established museums. Since 2000, Pacific Wrecks has emailed Greinert questions and clarification related to all wrecks he is involved with. It is impossible to recover everything. THE TOURISTS GO THERE, TAKE PHOTOS AND LEAVE HAVING HAD THEIR WAR RELIC EXPERIENCE. ITS BEEN A LOT OF FUN. The DC-4E design proved to be so bad that the company started over again, producing the successful DC-4 airliner. THE P-40F RECOVERY [P-40F "Bone Crusher" 41-14112 & P-40F 41-14205] OUT OF VANAUTU WAS MY FIRST OVERSEAS RECOVERY. SOMETIMES I WILL SPEND MORE TO GET THE ORIGINAL THAN I COULD HAVE MAKING IT FROM SCRATCH IN THE WORKSHOP. AS YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN THE RESTOIRATION BUSINESS I WOULD SUGGEST YOU GET YOURSELF INVOLVED IN A "DOWN TO THE LAST RIVET RESTORATION" FIND OUT WHAT IS INVOLVED WE WILL TALK AGAIN IN FIVE YEARS. Few would know it by its official designation, the Navy Type 1 Attack Bomber. It was then bought by Lodwick Aircraft Industries, Lakeland, FL in February 1946 where it was first civilian registered as NX69345. (Michael Jordan/BPE) "The aircraft sat in that field until the 90s when it was . THE B-25 STILL THERE REMAINS UNDER THREAT. The captured Japanese and German aircraft at Air & Space were War Prizes, not aircraft salvaged from battlefields after the war. The atomic bombs put an end to this sideshow. CLARIFICATION HistoryNet.com contains daily features, photo galleries and over 25,000 articles originally published in our nine magazines. G3Ms attacked in large vee formations of 27 aircraft stacked in nine mini-vees of three aircraft each, a formation-flying nightmare. Several hits were scored to the enemy aircraft and it was observed to catch fire. So, here is how I order at Betty Bombers,,. The Japanese thought that was unfair, and Yamamotos desire to build a fleet of very-long-range torpedo bombersno aircraft carriers neededwas in part a way to circumvent the Washington treaty: If we cant build floating warships, lets build flying warships. "passionate about aviation The admirals own noted punctuality doomed him, for the two G4Ms carrying him and his aides intersected perfectly with 16 P-38 Lightnings sent on a precise mission to intercept him over Bougainville, and Yamamoto died in the very airplane that he had helped create. WE FORWARD PLAN UP TO FIVE YEARS IN ADVANCE. SO YOU MISSED ALL THE MAGAZINES AND ARTICLES COVERING ALL THE WRECK RECOVERYS ETC. PACIFIC WRECK DATABASE IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF THIS. from Papua CLARIFICATION Designed by "Mitsubishi" in 1937-1940, respectively, serially produced in 1941-1945 . Four days later, two BETTY bombers landed at Ie Shima Island. The tail of the Betty Bomber. I was thinking of entitling it "What the F". How relics are owned by the state, but also how local compensation and tourism supersede removal, CLARIFICATION THE [previous] MUSEUMS BOARD ASKED MY OPINION AND I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE THEME OF THIS INTERVIEW. RESTORATION IS BEING CONDUCTED TO THE HIGHEST MUSEUM STANDARDS WITH EXTREME EMPHASIS ON ORIGINALITY AND COMPLETENESS. CLARIFICATION Download this stock image: U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Nor was it a factor during the early days of WWII, when Bettys ranged virtually unopposed against the Philippines, Australia and, in their greatest single victory, against the Royal Navy. Tail code "370" and later "-321". Join the RAF Museum's Ian Thirsk and Darren Priday as they discuss with the Museum's Seth Paridon and Ed Lengel, PhD, the . CLARIFICATION Fortunately for the Bettys engineering team, Mitsu came up with a new 1,530-hp, 14-cylinder, twin-row radial with half again as much grunt as its predecessor had offered. Betty . 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