Then yesterday I saw the new generation on the road. CAN IT BE BY MIS FIRE. The piston rings on certain cylinders may rotate and align which can lead to spark plug fouling. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Is there a way that I can be covered under this same class action suit? How did yall get the dealership to pay for even 75% because it looks like they are going to be no help, and I am not going to pay $4500 for something I shouldnt have to. my 2009 Honda accord 4 cylinder has check engine flashing, VSA, Triangle all on. BERK LAW PLLC, Beth E. Terrell Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags, Forum Icons: Thanks for any input. A simple, easy way to find recall and product update information on your Honda. Is there anyway to get compensation ? Please do another lawsuit or a recall something. Honda district manager told us that there is no way to know that there is no way to know that the replacement piston rings that were replaced on our Odyssey (2015) are a manufacturer defect (lemon.) So we replaced all of the coils and spark plugs. It is ridiculous how much gas I go thru for very little driving! They need to pay 100%. Ive lost trust in the brand. Since this is a complicated repair, you should expect it to take some considerable time. Im also wondering if my engine has likely suffered any damage as a result of the issue. I just want to ensure that if i donothing, that a warranty extension will automatically be in force, protecting my vehicle for a period of time. Cardinal Honda in Groton, Connecticut told me I would need a junk yard engine or new plugs to get by temporarily after finding code PO301. I bought a 2009 accord coupe and was never told about this lawsuit or recall. So my issues: 1. code. Dont trust local dealer service. We didt have to pay out of pocket expense because it was under warranty. Which was nice, but tells me they knew there was a problem and just didnt want to mess with it. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. Alex Soto, et al. My 2010 4 cylinder Accord has the same issue with excessive oil burning. Took it to the dealer and pointed out that in 2018 they noted that if the code came back they would need to do procedure B which is the piston ring replacement. Has anybody had any luck with this lawsuit? as of summer 2013 vibration has gotten less (70-90% does vibrate every now and then only when cold, still very small vibration is felt at idle even when warm). I definitely plan to have a muzzler installed, even if I have the dealer ring job done. It's a warranty extension for oil consumption. 3:12-cv-1377-SI (N.D. I had the same issue, 2014 accord, Stalled completely on the road. It took me awhile to figure the problem out, and after new spark plugs and googling I have the vehicle running. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. I now have this loaner car for a week now and they dont know how long it will take to get the car fixed. I only recently learned about the issues with VCM reading threads on OdyClub, and even though my '07 Touring with 130K miles doesn't have symptoms (high oil consumption, fouled plugs, etc.) TONS of MDX, pilot, ridgeline, etc running VCMuzzlers or similar options on the market. I drive a 2012 Pilot very low miles. Had cylinder 1 misfire 6/15 and repaired, had the same issue 11/16 also repaired, now having the same issue AGAIN 5/17 six months later. They are offering us a 15% discount for our trouble. Have that phone call recorded too, and reference number to the 45 min conversation. I just wasnt sure how long something like this took. I immediately called and spoke to the service manager at the dealer. Thanks for the input on the machine shop. You need to prove that your car is burning more than a qt in 1000 miles. We are DONE! My car was certified and had an extended warranty. My 2011 is covered until 2019. Is my Honda v6 eligible for any compensation towards repairs on misfire since the eligibility for the class action lawsuit expired in 2014 and I just have the problem now in 2017? 2008 accord exl v-6 w/30k miles purchased 2009 w/8k miles. According to the bulletin this is not covered? I have a 2009 with 116k and knock on wood no problems. Was told by dealer too late to repair under warranty even though I bought less than 2 years ago. Is there anything that can be done for 2008 4 cylinder Honda Accord for this claim as I have missed this and did not know this was an issue. The problem: Piston rings may rotate and align in certain Honda cars. I have a 2009 accord and this just started happening a few months ago!!! They are all aware that this is a Huge Honda Problem. I guess shes not concerned with us getting any longevity since its not looking like we will be repeat Honda owners. I also have a 08 Honda Accord. I do not trust anything the dealership says about my 2012 Honda Crosstour. But I think we should start another class action lawsuit against Honda, because Ill be damned if Im going to pay $4000 for a ring job and another $300 for a computer upgrade. I had to argue to get a loaner from them. This should not be difficult to do if you know how to burn excessive amounts of oil. Put in a remanufactured engine (similar cost), Basically sell it as is, and get whatever I can get out of it (I would think between $2-$3k). Once repaired, how likely is it to happen again? I have spoken to Honda and all they can do is apologize with I am sorry sir, as they will not back up their product. If you get a check, let us know! Today Cyl 3 plug finally had to be replaced as well. We pay way too much for nice cars for them to have so many problems! I had a friend of mine hook up his personal scanner and found out cylinder 5 was misfiring. First one, then the other. I am worried that I will not have problems until after the 8 year drivetrain warranty is up. Replied And a couple of weeks ago my engine came on flashing and traction light came on. Around 15 mph coasting, engine disconnects from accelerator and no acceleration nor increased rpm. After having it two months spark plugs started going out, it was using excessive oil, and the engine was misfiring all the time. I am very pissed the dealer can get away with knowing of such a problem and not telling you. change the spark plugs with some NGK iridium or ruthenuim plugs, pay someone or do it yourself. I have a 2012 Honda Odyssey and the engine light came on after it made a weird noise. Not what they did to fix what the problem caused. my 2004 Honda Odyssey would do his on its own, up 20mph 60mph even continued while I had the brakes to the floor !! Sounds like I should trade it in for 2014 ? It involved with the removing of the valve cover and adjusted all intake and replaced engine spark plugs not sure if this is related to the misfire and whether or not this is eligible for the reimbursement based on the misfire (no code on the invoice, so I have to look into it with the dealership). By Tom Torbjornsen. 1-888-888-3082, Steven N. Berk 2012 odyssey 42,000 miles. I started out with 1 quart every 2500 miles right out of the car lot, 2 years later its a quart or more every 1000 miles. My car runs so bad, shakes like crazy, doesnt accelerate, burns oil like no other, and I have to leave the AC off (even though the weather is in the high 90s right now) for my car to run decent enough to take it anywhere. Misfired from July 2013 until Feb 2014 with multiple visits to Honda before They repaired under class action. A federal judge has granted final approval to a massive class action lawsuit settlement between American Honda Motor Co. and more than 1.87 million consumers who owned or leased a Honda Accord, Odyssey, Pilot, or Crosstour. Repairs to or replacement of any part not listed above. I love my Odyssey, but almost makes me want to go buy another manufacturers model. Call dealer and my vin# is NOT included! The vehicle burns a quart of oil every 1000 miles. I am highly upset, in that, I purchased the car new in June 2013 and records online show that Honda new about this issue BEFORE I purchased the car. Is there any other way to recoup losses for the damage. Oil leaks on exhaust make car smell horrible. A cam lobe along with a rocker arm had pitting. I have had misfire and jerking but the salesman told me that it was normal with ESO so how will I be able to get the extended warranty in the event my problems are just beginning. Almost immediately, they all misfired again. Then a month ago I took it in for the same problem and also my warranty was up! My car has 36350 now and is out of the factory warranty. 347-427-1700 (H). A sad loss, even sadder Honda was no help!!! Repaired under warranty less than 1 year ago. Honda Odyssey 2013. Honda not willing to do the same for a known issue in a 2014 version. Love my Hondas and wont give them up but dealerships are another story. I have been a loyal Honda buyer for 25 years. And honda unwanted rappid acceleration issue / problems. Unfortunately, After all the money spent through Honda we are still getting the runaround. I leased my 2012 Honda Odyssey on November 9, 2012, and purchased it 3 years later. The dealership wont budge on the $3000 repair costs, ridiculous. Try our virtual chat tool. Since it was the same issue, I did what anyone would do and take it to dealership so they can fix it without having to cover any costs. I owned a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L and just recently experiences the problem while driving in constant speed around 60 and then the engine light went flashing. Recalls were made for the fuel pump, tires, incorrect central network software programming on the rear-view camera, improper welding of the front frame to the unibody, timing belt teeth separating from the timing belt, and roof pillar problems. After 20 years as a loyal customer. Ill change the spark plugs on the affected cylinders every 50k and will even try going to 5w30 oil instead of 0w20. REALLY TIRED OF IT . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Top Class Actions is a Proud Member of the American Bar Association, Various Trademarks held by their respective owners. Forum contains no unread posts Code P0301. I want to know why only the V6 vehicles are included in this settlement and not the 4 cylinders? Or is this only for people that have had problems ? These cookies do not store any personal information. I take it back to the mechanic and he says its a misfire again. Or do they have the same issues. And misleading, crooked company!! We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. Car Battery not powering ignition during cold weather (2018 VW Atlas). This is clearly still an ongoing issue with newer model Honda vehicles. Im having the code for cylinder 1 and I had to replace all of my catalytic converters is there anything that it can be done? Bought a used 2012 Honda at CarMax last year 34000 miles I have take my car back to the dealer 2 times due to misfires. Private They assure me that this repair can take a long time). Recall no. I have a 2013 Honda Odyssey. that reports on class action lawsuits, class action settlements, Always change my oil early with oil filter. I hope they fix it today because I am getting rid of it moving on to a better car. I thought that was fishy and really thought it when they told me that I had to have a total of 4 now (they would take an average). I thought all members of a potential class action suit were supposed to be notified and given the option to opt out. It is all covered by Honda because this was a problem with several models. Did you ever get anywhere with your case manager? Now, it is just the engine light. at 113,000 the first p0303 code comes in, offered the full piston ring redo, or plugs tubes and valves, we did the later do to cost. I heard from my mechanic that Honda issued an extended warranty for the oil consumption issue. The dealership then performed the second part of the mandatory repair replacing the piston rings. We just now are having engine misfires to the tune of $3300. Honda has decided not to honour its own product so I can no longer support them. I bought my 2013 odyssey like 7 months ago and already have misfire in cylinder 2 and 6 last week. Was never notified of any issue and out of pocket $331.53 before this third repair. Ive taken my 2010 Accord EXL to the dealer at least 5 times for its rough idle and they keep telling me theres nothing wrong with it. The fins on the original cylinder heads were straight front to back. The junk yard engine would cost $4000 not including labor. They then agreed to clean the heads and install a new software program that is supposed to be a solution. I said I do not believe so. I was stranded several times with it misfiring so bad that I did not feel comfortable driving it, several complaints to Honda and no answers so I got rid of it Best thing I did! I have never had a cat issue before.. My car is only 6 years old ..this 2100$ repair is a result of misfire. Can Honda do anything for me? They suggested getting a good, used motor at the cost of over $5,000 as it might cost more to figure it out and fix than the motor would cost. I will NEVER drive it again. They (Boch Honda Norwood Ma) just told me i have massive interior engine damage. The parties agree that there are no safety concerns with the vehicles named in the litigation. The second TSB involves pistons that may get stuck open and cause high oil consumption. Honda is recalling certain model year 2009-2013 Pilot and 2011-2013 Odyssey passenger vehicles manufactured from March 13, 2008, through December 21 . It was down a quart. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Can some one help me with being a part of this class action suit? My pilot is now the third car which is now the dog and winter car. I think some of the hybrids do that to keep the battery charged. It is one thing to find out about an issue after and inform current owners. I said hell no ,you pay all repairs.This was not my doing. 2015 EX (Alabaster Silver) - Shear Comfort seat covers, Husky Liners floor liners, OEM cargo liner, S-VCM Controller, Street Guardian dashcam, Scangauge II, Akebono ProACT brake pads, Raybestos Element3 rotors, Hayden 698 ATF cooler w/Tru-Cool thermostatic bypass valve, Lubegard Red, Draw-Tite 76025 hitch receiver. Isnt Honda and their dealers required to DISCLOSE/ADVISE/MAKE PUBLIC to buyers of vehicles they sell or have for sale that are with in the parameters of the vehicles with the flaws included in a class action law suit?? This was your flaw with engine design not mine. Service tech said oh, yeah that is an issue with that model. Or unwanted rapid acceleration issues / problems in Honda vehicles!! The case filed is Alex Soto,et al vs Honda Motor Co. This is a common problem in 4-cylinder engines as well. any obdii scanner can do this. They advised it was from the oil getting into the combustion chamber just like the V6s. Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the passenger frontal air bag module assembly, free of charge. When it was restarted, it produced a white smoke and after a short while, began behaving the exact same way all over again. We have serviced our vehicle and kept it up to service. 1961-62 L6 4.3 TRK GM Cromflex Piston Rings Set For G.M virgendelpasico.net, C $51.44 TRK Free shipping for many products 3 at the best online prices at L6 4 M 1961-62 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for GM Cromflex Piston Rings Set For G 261 . I have now had it in the shop twice due to this misfire recall. I could try Scotty Kilmer s #1 - @gew Don't be lazy please use proper titles. The FL350R has a 68mm stroke and was first released from Honda with an 80mm bore. SAME issue, but not included. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I am having the same problem with my 2011 Honda Pilot. Ive been told Ill only have to pay $117 for 2 spark plugs that werent covered. The diagnosis was cylinder 3 misfire, an apparent Honda problem and one that Ive had fixed once before on this same car at the dealership where I bought the car. Dealership plans to replace 4 spark plugs and 4 rings on the piston. Knowing what collateral damage WILL eventually occur from this condition is a major concern. I definitely plan to have a muzzler installed, even if I have the dealer ring job done. It will open your eyes. They should definitely reopen the law suit or start a new one! I bought cash a 2012 Honda Pilot EXL 6 cylinder on December 13, 2019. does not burn oil nor any codes. Its not like I ran into or over something or drove the van like a bat out of hell..this is CRAZY. Sometimes it takes longer to get approval for a warranty repair then it does to perform the repair. Shanon Carson There are no current safety recalls for this vehicle. I have brought it in twice for it burning oil, and they have overfilled it so it looks like it is not low when I check it again. My Honda Pilot just presented with the misfiring issue for the first time. At this rate we should all buy billboards in our local area and advertise VCM Muzzlers on themit's a real shame that so many that need it don't know about it. What can we do? I just spent $1000 in tune up and replacing 6 ignition coil + labor. 3:12-cv-1377-SI (N.D. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. Anyone have suggestions as to plan of action? If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. They replaced the spark plugs and I did not have to pay out of pocket for anything. you need to google it. Ive already spent well over the cost of the car & become in debt due to continuing problems!! Open Settlements I have purchased 3 vehicles from this dealer and have always been treated fairly. Now same thing is going on with it but the codes are for the catalytic converter this time..all 3 are blown now and blocked. I notice a after a thousand miles after a oil change it burnt a QT of oil and the gas mileage went from 25 mpg to 20 mpg. Honda wants me to pay 25%.. Im like why? I am debating if I should take it to the dealer or my mechanic. First let me say that I bought a Honda based on their history of a long life expectancy.now Im a very unhappy Honda owner!! It wasnt immediate but I was able to leave my number and they called me back. I think they just reset code. Document everything, bring it back to the dealer and have them check your oil every 1000 miles. Now faced with the $4000k piston redo. So far its been running fine! Photos: Honda Owner Reviews Write a Review J Rosingana on November 28, 2022 2011 Pilot using excessive amounts of oi Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. Paid for spark plugs to be replaced and dont know how long that will last. Have not had any problems with the 4 speed, does not burn any oil! We experience error codes again with noticeable smoke being admitted out of the exhaust tailpipe. A check engine light (code P0304 was read). I agree Im having problems with my 2010 crosstour. Are there any other suits or recalls? Had to replace both. Wind and Engine . I was notified about 2 different recalls: one for the airbag and one for the shift lever and immediately took it in and had it fixed. Please let me know how you get your issue resolved with Honda because im having the exact same problem. odyclub.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 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