But Treadwell was a fool. Timothy Treadwell AKA Timothy William Dexter Born: 29-Apr-1957 Birthplace: Long Island, NY Died: 5-Oct-2003 Location of death: Katmai National Park, AK Cause of death: Accident - Misc Remains: Cremated, Portions scattered in Katmai National Park, AK Gender: Male Race or Ethnicity: White Sexual orientation: Straight Occupation: Naturalist However, Amie is clearly heard yelling to Fight back! She is then heard screaming Stop! Amie may have found the adventure of traveling to Alaska romantic and exciting and may have even found spending time with a quirky guy like Tim to be entertaining and a refreshing escape from her work-a-day life in the city, no doubt filled with dangers and freaks of its own, but the truth and reality is Tim did not kill Amie. Fallico, Dr. Makes total sense that he got GOT by an older bear that had come into the Maze after the younger, stronger bears, had had their fill of food and headed in to hibernate.I will say Kudos to Treadwell for living the life that he wanted to liveby his terms (illegal or otherwise), and also going out on his own terms. Both Tim and Amies shoes were also found neatly still in place at the entrance to the main tent. Documented video shot by Tim of him feeding the fox has been uncovered. I hope that the Park Service has more strict rules since then. And I should also stress, that the footage in the video is extremely graphic in nature. Tim exposed the bears appearing on tv may have even given hunters all over america the idea to hunt the 160 bears the PS allows to be killed in katmi and kodiak. I will never consider a competing predator at the top of the food chain my friend and I will defend my place at the very top of the food chain instantly and with deadly force. (Dr. Herrero 1985, Treadwell 2001, 2002, et al), For Tim, this was nothing unusual. (Gilliland 2003, pg 10), Meanwhile, rangers Dalrymple and Ellis, having just reached the plane and out of ear shot of the activity unfolding back at camp, spot a large adult bear moving down the trail from the camp. Authorities have listened to it, and it's supposed to be horrible. I think he was only dumb af. One who spends so much time each year around grizzly bears, but is also the thought that keeps me in check. There are no pictures from Timothy Treadwell's death. I wish he took the rifle which was offered to him by the guy who dropped off supplies via sea plane. Egli, Sam. I would have spent as many seasons as I could with him out there. I believe as a child he was molested. I believe that, had Tim not walked away from the tent and towards the bear, and had stayed with Amie, or had they both left the tent and backed away from the tent giving the bear room, that the bear would not have attacked and both Tim and Amie would be alive today. That will not happen again. Thank you for not pursuing in publising the book, thats so human of you and tells more about what type of person you are. Jake Adelstein's wife, relatives, and kids, Tsukumo Sana: Who Was She Before Hololive? (Van Daele 2005, Readers Digest 2005). "But there was really no where to run.if she'd curled up in the tent and remained silent, the stench of the fag's carcass would have drawn other bears.Complete Cali airheadsnature loves us?no, nature is only the strong survive.I find it curious that the author cites Aimee as TT's lover?that cat was only a few clicks away from wearing a dress.lol. 1998, Mark of the Grizzly: Falcon Press.249pp. Wish she'd had a gun, in a reasonable caliber. Anyway, thanks for the article! I have recently watched Grizzly Man at the request of a friend who found I was entertaining black bears in my yard, granted it is really far out in the middle of nowhere, but i do have distant neighbors. I will say that my son was molested and told us near his 13th birthday. (Van Daele 2004, National Park Service 2003)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_16',112,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-4-0'); In late June 2003, Tim and Amie arrive in Katmai and set camp at Hallo Bay, in what Tim referred to as the Sanctuary. In my opinion, Amie was able to drive the bear away initially, because this was an older bear who had become conditioned when dealing with younger, stronger, more dominant bears by moving away from the food it had just obtained after being challenged, and was probably startled by a second animal, Amie in this case, suddenly appearing and making a lot of noise.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3','ezslot_10',121,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3-0'); After scaring the bear away, Amie and Tim have a short conversation while determining where the bear is, and whether it is still nearby. Humans need to go into natural spaces with profound respect. I truly understand human fascination with wild life. Tim Treadwell was an idiot and a mentally ill man child who as a grown man still felt the adolescent urge to defy authority. Treadwell appears to have some prior encounters with bears, but his and his girlfriends arrival was untimely given that the parks food supply was less plentiful than typical during the season of their visit. According to Wilkinson, the tape begins with sounds of Treadwell screaming that he is being . Willy then lands again about 1 mile west of the camp on the western shore of the lake. Food was found in the camp secured in 4 or 5 metal bear proof canisters, as well as open snack food found untouched inside the sleeping tent. Bears have instincts like humans. i really hope that some good will come out of this tragedy. Our only advantage and the whole reason we occupy the top is our tool making ability. Celebrity News Portal, Lifestyle, Biography. If they had gotten on the plane that day he would have been alive. Jewel states that no bears were poached while Tim was in Katmai, but that after he died 6 bears were poached within the park. Why would she as far away from it as he is? The word WANNABE pops into my head. Obviously what Timothy did was wrong for both himself, Amie, and bears, but unlike a lot of the reviews here I can't find myself laying the blame on him. Brooks camp would also increase the amount of human encounters. 260pp. His fate reminds me a little bit of Steve Irwin's death. The camera peers over Herzog's shoulder, revealing the . Your right,this as a Hollywood film would be epic! Treadwell is pictured here with Aimee Hugenard at Upper Kaflia Lake, less than 100 yards from where they would die a year later. Not a pet, or lovable cuddly bear. Not a good look. He lived among coastal brown bears (or grizzlies, Ursus arctos) in Katmai National Park, Alaska, for 13 summers. The tragedy is Tim took Amy with him. Im sure the same is true of most animals hence remaining calm is probably a good idea. So, attacks. Why did he seem so blatantly gay or bi-sexual while being adamant that he wasnt? Modesto, CA, Professor of Animal Science, Michigan State University. (More on this I discovered only one official document which Tim used to track and record public use from June 27, 1999 through July 10, 1999 and one unofficial hand written document regarding weather for June 1-13, 2000. 318pp. Clearly the author is an expert as many educated readers may surmise but how do we know this and if we don't clearly know this,the article is weakened a bit. Not the bodies, but just the torn-up camp and things like that etcAlso, has anyone went back to the site? The young gets to the age where, they will Challenge the older, leaders for Authority if he beaten he kick out the Clan. I appreciate this kind of reporting if you will. I would read a book by this author . how interesting and very thorough. Dodging and weaving around one tent, and then the other, out of her mind with fear? He lived off canned packed food while his bears foraged to stay alive wanted people to believe he was alone when he was not. In one of the most extremeand ultimately tragicexperiments in human-animal cohabitation ever attempted, for 13 consecutive summers, Treadwell lived (and finally died) among the bears at an Alaskan national park. I love being hypomanic. If you watch documentaries on Bart, he was actually considered a brilliant "actor." But keep in mind, Amie was a smart girl, she was a physicians assistant after all, no small feat. Leave them be. Than You!! Humans are incredibly fragile. I don't even remember what it was I was looking up on google when I came across your story. I suppose that is my payment for knowing too much information, and being able to fill in the blanks. The correct term for him is Bipolar 2. Just the meanest looking thing. Im so sorry?? All I know is anyone who beats on a bear with a frying pan has balls, no matter how long they hesitate. Possibly pushing Bipolar 1. I noticed that he was very arrogant. I hope that she never does. (more on this below) A short conversation ensues as Amie and Tim try and determine if the bear is really gone. I think initially he turned to heavy drugs to ease his pain w living life in the closet, and then, he turned to Wild Alaska, where he had no boundaries, labels, etc.His severe misstep was staying longer than usual that last summer. I just don't like some of my behaviors during it. Well written. I cant find little Booble. In Alaska, that kind of behavior makes a man stand outand not in a good way. Maybe she had had a heart attack or something and the bears only ate her dead body afterwards. One last thing that made me laugh about the author who on this planet told you firearms weren't allowed in katmai? Dont mess with bears. for years to comebut like you said of how nightmares are a price you paid for being too close wouldn't this be less of a nightmare in possibly preventing future mishaps like the Treadwell travesty from happening through education and by reading and responding to an audience that knows you won't be a jerk or take them too lightly. lets respect the bears by leaving them their space & staying in our own. Run Faster! Oh, and for "nature", can find the critters in the Hollywood hills. Sadly, I don't think there was anything Tim or Amy could have done at this point. Pretty sure that is more your hang up than his. Cute doesn't mean that it won't cause you pain. After watching the special airing of the movie Grizzly Man on the Discovery Channel February 4, 2006. Likewise, in a 1994 interview when he was asked whether he was ever afraid of the bears, he responded with saying They wouldnt hurt me. In seeing the documentary and reading a lot about TT, it was obvious he had some serious mental issues. The bear hesitates for about 2 seconds before turning and walking back down the trail to the lake. It is far too easy to fall prey to your own self confidence. Your voice is beautiful! How do we know that? We learned to live with the bears and respect their presence and we never had any serious issues. Toxic wastewater from East Palestine dumped in Texas; locals furious, Were dying slowly East Palestine residents complain of worsening health problems despite being given the all clear by Biden regime, Army Chief: If Major War Breaks Out, China To Attack U.S. It was posted to draw traffic to his UTube page. i first came across the audio recording on youtube, questioning its authenticity i decided to google what happened. But in my opinion, you could have been quite a bit harsher of Idiot Treadwell. Being trained as a physicians assistant, it is believed that Amie made her way to Tim, and from the sounds caught on tape, the bear returns and Amie is forced to back off. No fancy slug, any 1 oz. 1997, Among Grizzlies: Living With Wild Bears in Alaska. The camera captured the victims grotesque screams and excruciating suffering. I actually appreciate this clearing up the fake audio as i nearly made a fool of myself alluding to it being real merely because I had fooled myself by so many repeat occurrences of the footage followed by others claiming it to be real, who were either intentionally perpetuating the hoax or just others fooled like me. 1992, The Bears of Yellowstone. I feel as you do, he did much more damage than good for the bears he was studying. I am impressed with this article. Willy then takes off and flies over the campsite 15 to 20 times in an attempt to chase the bear away, and sees what appears to be the same bear feeding from a human rib cage, but each time he flies over the camp the bear begins to feed even faster. Animals are capable to express and behave as does any human in very similar ways. On Friday, October 8, 2003, two days after investigators first arrived and killed the two bears, a necropsy of the larger bear was conducted at the scene by biologist Larry Van Daele, where it was learned the stomach and digestive tract contained human remains and torn pieces of clothing. Movies or even documentaries have things added that are not fact. I know the bear was the one known as Quincy the Bear by Tim. The term Brown Bear is the more correct and scientific use for the specie. Thankyou for your efforts getting the story right. Egli Air (Helicopter) Haul. Lastly some may say whats up with me? I only hope that the end came quick for Amie. I spent five years studying wolves in the wild in Canada in the 1980's. Lol. In this case, the humans should have continued their exit plan and listened to theirs but foolishy they didnt. Also, who is the author of this great piece of literature, "The Night of the Living Bear"? Tim leaves the tent and walks away from the tent and towards the bear. 2004, On camera dialog: Grizzly Man Movie. Tim would often tell listeners about the time he calmly defused a dangerous encounter with a bear, by talking softly to it. Seen a lot of Tim bashing here. Unconventional? Willy states that he could not be 100% sure, but was confident that something was wrong. Much as it would have done with a salmon or other food item when approached by other bears in the area. (Ellis 2003, pg 3). What a girl. Why did he tell park rangers he had no living relatives? It is sad two of thewonderful, powerful, primitive, wild and majestic beastshad to die because of silly California Tourists who like tomake videos. [1] Poor amy i wish i could have saved her. Nice writing, straight facts and authors feelings and opinions later also on point. What a red neck a#$ who, although had his views refused to state the other's views with a shred of dignity even, at least for saying Treadwell did love these bear's but was, sadly, misinformed perhaps from having no formal education or training on these majestic beings. Im not sure the cause or timeline, but it seemed rather obvious to me that this guy wasnt playing with a full deck. Am I the only one who thinks releasing the tape would probably help discourage other lunatics? I watched the grizzly man documentary and within the first few minutes, I was sure this young man was battling with some mental deficiencies. A former heroin addict, the 46-year-old found solace with the grizzlies - who he spoke to, played with. When you hear the bears roar they are clearly closer to the camera than the screaming indicating a poor audio dubbing As i was increasingly fooled by repeats of the footage, I started to renounce my skepticism a little by saying maybe a second bear was wandering close to the camera as the other bear ate him because there are somewhat more distant roars in the footage too. Living by eating our garbage, with the occasional attempt at a child thrown in. Animals. What's also interesting is his relationship with his parents. A sobering thought for someone like myself. A special thanks to Rangers Joel Ellis and Rick McIntyre for their interest, their valuable insights, questions and encouragement. Great article. Also, his constant abuse of drugs and alcohol. Despite his cavalier approach to the bears, he knew they could kill him, and at one point in Grizzly Man, you hear him say how terrified he was of being attacked by a bear. Their behavior was extreme but hardly unique, to judge by the steady trickle of similar incidents elsewhere.I am a retired journalist who wrote kimgtragedy.info, which tells the tale of James Kim, a technical writer who, in 2006, ignored a series of warnings and common sense on the way to getting himself killed in the remote forest of SW Oregon, endangering his equally brainless wife and their two children who were rescued in the nick of time.There are commonalities in the two stories: negligence to the point of recklessness, and -- oddly enough -- a selfish lack of respect for "Mother Nature" who sat by as people sucked in by too many Yogi Bear and Bambi cartoons, accentuated by over-the-top "environmentalist" romanticization of the Outback ignore the realities.Only after humans largely conquer Ma Nature, or at least adapt to it and bend it to suit our needs and tastes, do we take the stupidly romantic view, to the point where tourists in Yellowstone try to pet the bison, only to learn the hard way that a 1,500-pound wild animal might not want to be petted.I have to wonder: Why grizzlies? Anything that made it past that wild hell would have to have been incredibly tough.We lived through those times and it probably explains why we humans are as violent as we are. More or less. We go crazy and can't think straight. thank you for your story. He often taped the encounters.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-2','ezslot_9',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-2-0'); So what happened? Sorry Jewel Palovak, but tis seems more like censorship than respect.. Of this two minutes, the final sound has been looped.(screaming). The stuff horror movies are made of. I hope your nightmares calm over time. All four begin yelling in hopes that the bear would see them and move away. At 4:26 pm the team arrive at the lake, and ranger Ellis conducts a quick interview with Willy Fulton. The audio portion of this video tape lasts roughly 6 minutes. That must have hurt his family something awful. I often work in remote areas hence Ive had my fair share of bear encounters. (Emery 2003). 2005, Readers Digest Interview. Find reviews of the top USA betting sites at https://bettingsitesusa.net. And be aware that yes, in the woods, you will potentially run into the animals that live and thrive there, just like you may in the ocean. A sober recount of what might have happened. However, it is unknown whether bear #141 had ever gotten into or received some sort of food reward from humans. After barely graduating high school, Tim left for Southern California and ended up in Long Beach. Why not rattlesnakes? Amie and Tim were in the tent on Sunday night chatting about that days filming and returning to the world. Ive found some of the reviews really interesting too. Herzog, Werner. Just hold your arm out, far enough away that the dog will need to take a step forward to smell you, and when that happens, if some licking and/or tail wagging, then you can pet, but if barking or angry/aggressive, move your arm back to your side and move away, and never ever grab any animal around the neck, not ever, you understand that? Great read. 1985, Bear Attacks, Their Causes and Avoidance: Lions & Burford Publishers. But to think this mania he is in isn't the 100% cause of his behavior is troubling. Apparently either Tim had asked Amie to turn the camera on, or Amie just turned it on out of reflex. Timothy seemed like a very misguided man, thinking that this was his life mission, totally detached from society. In this particular case, the bear came walking down the path that night and had no where else to go, but right through the camp with Tim and Amies tent in the middle of the trail. Please leave nature alone. Alpha, rule many Ignores that. It seemed so obvious to me. I doubt he would have wanted to see a bear killed but his actions alone created that chaos. Ignoring and shunning the more aggressive and confrontational side of humanity and falling back on a kind of Disney perception of right and wrong. Rare in itself. He was a nice guy. I hope that in publishing this story online, that this will prevent those authors from profiting from Tim and Amies death. And if your in Healy they ask or say dont pull a chris macanless. Palovak, Jewel. Please visit our friends at AmericanBetting.org for a guide on legalized sports betting in the US. My next point is about people posting about which type of mental illness Tim had. 504pp. Thats the risk we have to take to see the last remaining symbol of wilderness. Anything else is foolish. My Dad would have liked to have read it. Anyways thank you to the writer for not being like everyone else . The tapes, which capture the sounds of Timothy and Huguenards deaths, are described by Mirror as being rather gory. No call stimulating upcoming doom for Amie. Remaining calm will probably prevent the animals predatory instincts from being triggered. I mean, sure, it's great but all animals-including humans-are the result of millions of years of a brutal and cold struggle.Just watch videos uploaded by regular people of hyenas and wild dogs hunting prey in Africa. this website was the first result so i clicked it, read it & im glad i did. However this article and the way it was written with such authenticity but not being dull and just plain information was very captivating and so easy to read. All I wanted to do is listen to the six minute audio of Mr. Treadwell being eaten alive. Votes: 6 11.1% Run Like Hell! He claimed he wouldn't die by "paws" and "claws." Not only that, but there are clues hidden in his childhood. Instead of attracting the bear like a predator call, I believe this very aggressive bear was still attempting to protect its kill. Calling himself a gentle warrior and baby talking to them. There are several reasons why you do not approach, or attempt to get any where near a bear, they are apex predators and they are not afraid of you. His rants and fits were indicative of that age bracket. Eight days later they are discovered dead. This could indicate that he was closer to her than his dad. As Tim leaves the tent, investigators believe that Amie instinctively turns the camera on, possibly as her message in a bottle, and then asks Tim if the bear is still out there, and almost immediately the bear attacks. How could a genuine naturalist move in such extremes? Tim was obviously very aware and struggling desperately to survive during the last moments of his life. I would think twice from just sending this as a letter to Alaska Parks and Recreation Admin for fear I wouldn't get the intelligent and unbiased author, rather that my letter and others and future letters penned by prospective park employees or bear enthusiasts wishing to be the next Mr. Seus or Mr. Treadwell (at heart but with an educated mind) anyway, I would perhaps refrain from mailing this letter in search of seeking the experienced insightful author (name unknown) as it's recipient but,dreadfully, falling in the red neck ignorant hands of the pilot man who said outloud in a movie without much hesitation, that Treadwell got what he deserved. It is not benefiting from death, but rather valuing life. I hope that you use it! Tim did not handcuff or hold her hostage up in Alaska, Amie came and went of her own free will twice each year for three summers. For starters, he changed his last name to his mother's maiden name. Huguenard quit her job on Jan. 31, 2003 and moved to Malibu where she was to start a new job after she and Tim returned for the winter. It is possible that this incident would have occurred no matter what precautions Tim and Amie might have taken. You don't skimp on the tough issues either. Grizzly is just common usage in the lower 48, having first been used during the Lewis and Clark expedition when they referred to a brown bear with grizzled appearance. It could be as simple as; Being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I came here since I heard the audio on youtube and wanted more insight and boy was this such a great read. I believe your comment about Treadwell giving bears anthropomorphic qualities is 100% accurate. I mean thats a real jem guess i broke the rules guy but im alive and kicking. Tim and AmieLast Expedition Willy Fulton 2003. Katmai National Park Ranger. Tim was just lucky and his luck finally ran out. Commercial aircraft fly over the polar bear habitat so chartered planes (or ships) could drop animal carcuses over the region until we can figure out how to cool our planet down to re-form the sea ice. He was quite sad to hear of Dave's passing - he learned of it in 2014. Read at your own discretion. deer slugs beats the highest power rifle at close range, and this is precisely why the rangers use 12 guage with slugs. In the last few minutes of the film, we see Tim walking across the tidal flats with two red fox following close behind. Why did he lie about his family upbringing? My problem was to try to get them NOT to run away so I could watch, but, as I said, that could only happen if they couldn't see me.None of this can be said for grizzly bears. Telling his closest friends the bears and fox he loved them. He assumed the risk of putting himself in the worst possible situation (hungry bears already late to start hibernating for the winter and scarce food to be found). He out stayed his welcome.2. Greatings from Dsseldorf. Then he went on to bears, a new "habit" which he didn't think would be just as deadly. Sign up for our daily email and get the stories everyone is talking about. Video and still camera equipment, also found at the site, were later analyzed by Alaska State Troopers where it was discovered that the last remaining 6 minutes of video tape, which was found still in the camera bag, had captured the sounds of the attack.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-1','ezslot_4',116,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-1-0'); The first sounds from the tape are from Amie, she sounds surprised and asks if its still out there. Again, such a great read! 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